lou: over 20 million people out of work, under employed, app education system not working almost 50 million people on food stamps, are you kidding me? how do you make sense out of that for amnesty. >> i did not say that. lou: i know can you? >> no, i cannot, bottom line is that -- i think that bottom line that is only way it gets done. lou: matt, a reasonable fellow, will you come back soon. >> thank you. lou: thank you so much judy, and now matter your contentious nature. up next, new book, extortion how capitol hillfieds off of your money, some buy votes, others ending up in our elected official's pockets? author peter schweizer is joining me next. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every d. w